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Ezekiel 33:6

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Friday, April 15, 2011

Multi-Phased Rescue Mission


First the Wedding, Then the Supper
More Possibilities Examined

Praise God.  Glory Glory Glory!!

There sure are a lot of mysteries hidden in the scripture.  Isn't it cool?  Everyone seems to think they have the secret formula for Coca-Cola tucked away in their "little peanut sized brains".  I take a lot of verbal retribution for my ideas.  Recently I even had a pastor call some of my "ideas" Satanic.  HA!  I warned him he best watch his demeanor because he might lose some of his crowns.

Where is our humility?  Can we not wonder about the Glory of God beyond the 12 oz. can of "theological" containment?

Sure we can, and sure WE SHALL!


More than Meets the Eye

Every time I see another person's interpretation of scripture, my mind starts to "spin" and I look for other possibilities.  I believe we should all do that.  After all, have we not been ultimately misled by the force feeding of "milk" for years and years?  You bet!

So it's certainly reasonable to assume that most of what we've been taught about prophecy and other scripture is "less than trustworthy" ... wouldn't you say?  I would.  Again I would remind the reader that I was raised a "no rapture" person.  And the arguments were pretty solid.  I even have a book entitled "The Rapture Plot".  I didn't finish it though.  It was a difficult read and endlessly "beat to death" this single group of people suggesting there was this demonically inspired "plan" to inject the concept of a rapture into Biblical teaching.  After a few chapters, that one needed to be "tossed".

I've come to the conclusion that we all need to "loosen up" a bit on our current understanding of things.  It is imperative we take the "empirical" information of "today" and reverse engineer it back into the scripture.  I think you have a "thought deficiency" if you don't do that.  There are certain things that cannot be denied.  And God is the Almighty Creator of "all things".


Three Specific Times


You have evidence all throughout the Bible of times when groups of people were raised from the dead, certain times when others were "sucked up" into the sky (call it what you will).  To further get your arms around all this information (and scripture), please refer to the article on Tribulation-Now entitled:

The Elect, The Bride, and The Tribulation-Saints
http://www.tribulation-now.com/2011/03/elect-bride-and-tribulation-saints.html

There is also a two-hour radio show done on this subject for those interested.  You can listen live on Blog Talk Radio from the links below here.

FallenAngelsTV

The Elect, the Bride and The Tribulation-Saints
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fallenangelstv/2011/03/19/the-elect-the-bride-and-the-tribulation-saints

Other related shows can be found on the main archive link here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fallenangelstv


Rescue Mission Phase I

You have the Church of Philadelphia delivered from the "hour of trial" (Rev 3:6); the "Woman" of Revelation 12:6, (Rev. 12:6) who is "FED" ... listen ... FED for 1260 days.  This is the duration of the Great Tribulation.  This is the last 3.5 years of Daniels 70 weeks.

THIS IS THE BRIDE

The word "eat" or "fed" here is a "KEY WORD".


Rev 3:10
Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
NKJV


And ...


Rev 12:6
Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days. 
NKJV


NOW!

Contrast that to the report card of the Church of Thyatira who is purposefully CAST INTO the Great Tribulation.  That is the complete opposite.

Rev 2:22-23 
Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 

NKJV


So CLEARLY here you see that the faithful church, is the Bride of Jesus Christ which is rescued out of the entire 3.5 years of the Great Tribulation.  NOT BEFORE!  She is only FED in the wilderness for 3.5 years or 1260 days.  So this destroys the concept of "pre-trib" rapture, "seven" years before the end of the world.  Amen?

Important: Do NOT write me to start a debate or correct my course.  I will not respond and I promise you I will delete you.  Learn or leave in Jesus Name.



Rescue Mission Phase II

Then you have the elect that are gathered at the "Last Trumpet" (Matt 24:30, 1 Cor. 15:52).   But "listen" ... that is a "Trumpet"!  There are also scriptures in 1 Thess. 4 which other rapture believers point to as THE "pre-trib" event.  But these verses do not reflect an event that happens before the Great Tribulation.


1 Thess 4:16-18 
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.  
NKJV
I don't know about you ... but this does NOT seem to be something that happens like a "thief" in the night.  This sounds like the gathering of the "elect" in Matthew 24:30 and 1 Corinthians 15:52 complete with a trumpet blast.

Do people believe the Bride will be taken out right after a loud trumpet blast?

I don't think this is the case.

There are "Trumpets" and "Bowls".....  Bowl / Vial judgments come at the VERY END of the 3.5 years of the Great Tribulation.   So at some point the "Last Trumpet" blows during the Great Tribulation ...  This has to be at some time in the midst of the 1260 days.  Right?



Rescue Mission Phase III

Then you have the Two Witnesses.  They are here for the WHOLE 1260 days.  Arguably they could be the same group as the Tribulation-Saints or a "subset" of them.  The "key" here is they are ON THE EARTH for 1260 days. (Rev 11:3).  BUT THEN!!!  They are "killed" and then "resurrected".  Then God CALLS THEM "UP".

Get it?


Rev 11:2-3 
And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. 
NKJV
And ...


Rev 11:12 
And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they ascended to heaven in a cloud 
NKJV

These are THREE (count them) ... THREE TIMES the scriptures specifically refer to a DIFFERENT group of believers being called up to the Heavens.


And ... there could be more.

If you are one of those who "buy off" on the "two witnesses" being some version of Moses, Enoch or Elijah coming back to earth and "breathing fire" out of their mouths from a street corner in Tel Aviv, I recommend you watch this You Tube video.  These guys "nailed it" as far as I'm concerned.

The Two Witnesses of Revelation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmtYF0y29xI






Three Times, Three Watches


This morning I read an email from Christina.  I love Christina.  She humbly says things like "maybe I won't make the first rescue mission" but I have never seen anyone as excited as she is.  She rocks!! Glory to God.

Her email had a link to a comment on the 5 Doves web site.   A person was pointing out Luke 12:35-40 and suggesting it implied there would be "three" events that happen the evening of THE rapture.  Okay ... maybe that is true.  I have postulated in the past that perhaps the night of the "rescue mission", there might be "multiple waves" of "beam me us Scotty" events.  Amen?  Fair enough.

BUT WHAT IF?

Does THREE not match up well with THREE?



The Master Returns from the Wedding

Luke 12:35-40

 35 "Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning;  36 and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately.

Excuse me?  Why does this say "return from the wedding"?  Does this scripture not imply that "the master" is "returning" from "the wedding"?   Notice it also says to keep your "lamps burning" (ref. Matt. 25 the Wise and Foolish Virgins).  Hmmm.

So here it appears that "The Master" is returning from His WEDDING!

But the Master has not gone to the Wedding Reception TO EAT ... yet ... has he?


Those Found Waiting on the Second and Third Watch

Here the same scripture continues.  It talks about the master returning to find more believers who are "watching" for Him.  And indeed it suggests that when He finds them, He will EAT with them. 

37 Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching.  Assuredly, I say to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them

There's that "EAT" /  "FED" word again.  I believe it is "possible" that most of those who are eventually rescued will be at the Marriage Supper (see Rev 19) as the scripture does not specifically refer to the Bride ONLY at the Supper.

What Wedding Reception have you been to where ONLY the Bride and the Groom were present?

38 And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.  

What is THE SECOND or THIRD watch?  Some estimate this all happens on the same "rapture night" as in the link below from the Doves web site (God Bless You Christina).

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/brucew414-3.htm

But are we sure about that?  Does this happen all in "one night"?

39 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.  40 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." 

This scripture above "seems" to imply a single hour.  But DOES it really?  Does the "hour of trial" the Church of Philadelphia get delivered from only last "ONE earthy hour"?

I don't think so.


Summary in Jesus Name

Isn't this cool stuff?  Isn't this encouraging?

I don't know if I am right about these things but it sure does look quite interesting to consider ... Amen?  Aren't we absolutely blessed to have this wonderful opportunity to "wake up" to new understandings of God's Word in the "last days"?  I believe this is very exciting.

God's Mercy Runs DEEP

Jesus Wants All His Sheep to COME HOME


HOLY HOLY HOLY

is the 

LORD GOD ALMIGHTY


Who

IS, and WAS, and IS TO COME



PRAISE YAHUSHUA JESUS 
OUR KING




NOW LET'S GET "OUT'A HERE!"

4 comments:

  1. I had not considered "Luke 12:35-40" before, but when I read it in your email/analysis, it made perfect sense!



    Jesus returns from His wedding .. wedded to whom ? .. His Bride - which may be those "rescued" on the 1st watch.



    As Jesus returns, he finds those servants on the 2nd watch who are faithfully waiting for Him to return. These servants may be those saints who didn't make the 1st watch for whatever reason, and then those later on the 3rd watch. The 2nd & 3rd watch saints are not part of "the Bride", but nevertheless are invited to the marriage supper to share in the joy and overflowing love of the marriage.



    As I've mentioned before, I've been exposed to pre-Trib, mid-Trib, pre-wrath Trib, post-Trib, and no Trib rapture theories, all bolstered with Scriptures.



    In the latter 1990's, God quickened to me the pre-wrath rapture. Perhaps that's when I am rescued, and not before. In light of Luke 12:35-40, and connecting other Scriptures that you have presented, this has opened my understanding that there may be more than one "rescue mission".



    For those who are not included in the rescue of "the Bride" - and if that should include me, I don't know - faint not, in one's faith, because God will have an important "work" to do for those saints "left behind" - God's work will not be over, but will depend heavily on those saints "left behind".



    So I look at this (being "left behind") as not a demotion, or "didn't make the grade", or a loss of one's salvation, but as an extension of God's great and important end-times ministry to bring more lost souls into His Kingdom before the 3rd rescue mission is completed!



    Because for those "left behind" after the 3rd "rescue mission", their fate will surely be sealed unto damnation!



    God bless,

    Loren

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  2. ...EVERY WORD IS IMPORTANT, isn't it? -AMEN!

    Tamra

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  3. Okay--John just as I am clearing my eye make-up from running down my face from the tears...I have to share this with you. I am so faithful daily on reading your blog but I did miss yesterday so here I am today Saturday reading yesterdays blog. Yesterday the Lord brought me to Luke 12:34-40 I read it and re-read it was hitting me so strong but I wasn't getting it. So I kept reading before and after the verses. My mind was blocked and I kept saying what am I suppose to be getting from this..I kept reading and re-reading. Then as usually life came into play and I left the scriptures..Enough said. Then this morning I awake get on your blog and there it is -----LUKE 12:35-40---- with astonishing interpetation which I never saw before as many times I have read it and it was so simple I couldn't get anything different from it..but I knew something was hidden or the Lord wouldn't be hitting me on the side of the head to say keep reading (lol)....Your blog (yesterday it was written but explained "TO ME" today)....It just confirms to me how God is talking to His people at the same time with the exact info from all over the earth..we don't even know eachother but the message is the same..sorry but this is such a WOW moment for me...God is soooo good ...thanks for the tears of JOY!!!!!!

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  4. Wow. I'm speechless. God Bless You. Praise God. I often have no idea if I am seeing things correctly or not but sometimes scriptures jump off the page and I feel led to share what comes upon me, prayerfully through the spirit of God. Amen Hallalujah!

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